Comments on The Pensive Quill: Marian Price Targeted by Special Repression

Somewhat garbled comments Dingo, but I get the gis...

2012-03-07T10:26:07.299Z

Somewhat garbled comments Dingo, but I get the gist of it.

I think I will post off a letter to David Ford this morning on the Marion Price issue.

By the way, I'm a member of the Brendan Lillis Facebook group and was very active in that campaign on the strrets of Dublin and Wexford.

I think the group was very well run and was quite right in being strict on keeping personal political opinions to a minimum. So well done.

I was an admin on the free BL Facebook group Party...

2012-03-05T23:33:14.679Z

I was an admin on the free BL Facebook group Party politics and/or organisations agenda 's were kept to a minimum as was anyone disrespecting the ultimate goal of setting BL free my initial response (apologies for capitals) is-Sonicboom Boomboy MY INITIAL RESPONSE IS IT MATTERS NOT WHAT PARTY - ORGANISATIONS A REPUBLICAN BELONGS TO - THE TREATMENT OF POWs AND/OR THOSE AT THREAT OF THEIR LICENCE REVOKED DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE - EVERYONE IS AT RISK - MARTIN COREY, MARIAN PRICE AND GERRY MCGEOUGH FOR EXAMPLE - CAMPAIGNS FOR POWs THAT INCLUDE HUMANITARIAN ISSUES AND HUMAN RIGHTS SHOULD PUT THEIR DIFFERENCES ASIDE IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES

Please do not ignore social media Facebook twitter video multi media etc there were over 2000 members from across the globe - coordinating aspects of the campaign and giving priority to certain aspects at various times were critical. There was a strong group ethos and bond and respect within the group.
There are particular social media techniques that are vital too - rather than repeat and duplicate them here please contact me in private and can share ideas on how to use these in regard to Marian price
Thanks jimmy

I was an admin on the free BL Facebook group which...

2012-03-05T23:22:46.746Z

I was an admin on the free BL Facebook group which had over 2000 members.
Party politics and/or organisations agendas were kept to a minimum as was anyone individually disrespecting others that distracted from the ultimate goal of the campaign to free BL -
there were times street protests was priority - legal or medical issues priority - humanitarian and HUMAN RIGHTS were central to binding people together from across the globe.
Email - letter - campaigns - select targets at various times. - ford - Mla's - TD's - organisations in the USA - newspapers, -
Do not ignore social media Facebook twitter multi-media etc as their reach is vast - I am happy to share in more detail in private the tactics and techniques that can be used-i am not hiding anything just at this stage no need to duplication of effort -
Apologies as this was posted elsewhere my personal opinion is
I was an admin on the free BL Facebook group Party politics and/or organisations agenda 's were kept to a minimum as was anyone disrespecting the ultimate goal of setting BL free my initial response (apologies for capitals) is-Sonicboom Boomboy MY INITIAL RESPONSE IS IT MATTERS NOT WHAT PARTY - ORGANISATIONS A REPUBLICAN BELONGS TO - THE TREATMENT OF POWs AND/OR THOSE AT THREAT OF THEIR LICENCE REVOKED DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE - EVERYONE IS AT RISK - MARTIN COREY, MARIAN PRICE AND GERRY MCGEOUGH FOR EXAMPLE - CAMPAIGNS FOR POWs THAT INCLUDE HUMANITARIAN ISSUES AND HUMAN RIGHTS SHOULD PUT THEIR DIFFERENCES ASIDE IN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES

Robert MP and her lawyers say that she was pardon...

2012-03-01T22:19:53.101Z

Robert

MP and her lawyers say that she was pardoned and not released on license. So there exists no license in order for Paterson to revoke; therefore unlawful detention applies. Rather conveniently the pardon itself has gone astray, nevertheless, by default things fall in MP's favour. These are arguments of reason and logic not resentment.

"My views on this are merely personal opinion..."

Ditto, it is Paterson's opinion also (not the Court's).

And, NI is full of extreme people willing to break the law or abuse it and Paterson seems to be no different; I say it is for the Court's to decide on the merits of MP holding a piece of paper and Paterson loosing a piece of paper in order to hold her captive, and not a politician's personal opinion.

Tiarna, 'You should not cast stones about Mar...

2012-03-01T21:47:30.950Z

Tiarna,

'You should not cast stones about Marian Prices lawlessness (past or alleged current conduct) while the rule of law does not support your argument for her continued imprisonment.'

On the contrary Owen Paterson revoked Marian's licence after she was charged with offences under the Terrorism Act 2000 and following the recommendation of the Parole Commissioners. He was permitted to do so by powers conferred on him by Parliament in the Life Sentences (Northern Ireland) Order 2001. I appreciate that you may resent this but it is not illegal.

'The Court says NO and you and the SoS say YES to her detention --rule of law and democracy do not work that way and it is the views of people like YOU and the SoS that make people feel they have no option but to kill someone to get fair play.'

My views on this are merely personal opinion that have, in any event, no bearing. It seems somewhat extreme that someone should be killed on that basis.

Robert The same files that were put before the Co...

2012-02-28T13:41:04.999Z

Robert

The same files that were put before the Court were put before an elected politician, one has constitutional legal jurisdiction the other does not. The Court saw nothing in those files that justified pre-trial detention (the Court is fully aware of her past).

Price is in captivity soley on the say so of a non-legal authority because the Executive shares your sense of bias and not because of the unbiased reasoning of the Judiciary.

You should not cast stones about Marian Prices lawlessness (past or alleged current conduct) while the rule of law does not support your argument for her continued imprisonment. The Court says NO and you and the SoS say YES to her detention --rule of law and democracy do not work that way and it is the views of people like YOU and the SoS that make people feel they have no option but to kill someone to get fair play.

tiarna

Robert whats the point of having a justice ministr...

2012-02-28T09:31:48.885Z

Robert whats the point of having a justice ministry ,or indeed an assembly however one feel about it,when it can be superseded by an unelected mp from the conservative party,Marian,s internment is proof if needed that what passes as decomarcy here is nothing more than a puppet show controlled of course by Westminister

Robert, she did detonate bombs in London but that...

2012-02-28T08:51:05.628Z

Robert,

she did detonate bombs in London but that reinforces the opposition to her detention.

She served her sentence and was released. She has been charged subsequently but crucially bailed. She is not being held for the charges she faces but for previous charges for which she has served her time. She has been found guilty of nothing. So she is imprisoned as a result of an executive decision made by a British official. For this reason I believe those who feel it is internment have a strong point

Anthony, '..and how did those beliefs manifes...

2012-02-28T00:34:53.157Z

Anthony,

'..and how did those beliefs manifest themselves'?

By detonating bombs in London that injured 200 people. Latterly she has been charged with involvement with Masserene and issuing death threats. As you have pointed out she has been bailed on these specific charges. In my opinion there is nothing unreasonable or unjust about having her licence revoked where she is continually implicated in RIRA activity.

Marty, If it were a case of a piece of paper cont...

2012-02-27T23:56:36.664Z

Marty,

If it were a case of a piece of paper containing a benign Easter message from the RIRA, a recall involving solitary confinement would indeed be a draconian response. The response I think is entirely proportinate to the actions of an organisation that is responsible for the Omagh bombing.

Is there a female Republican wing where Marian Price can be housed?

More information on action on behalf of Free Mari...

2012-02-27T15:21:25.613Z

More information on action on behalf of Free Marian campaign...
THURSDAY.....1ST MARCH
4---6PM TAXIS PARK Castle Street,
TUESDAY.....6TH MARCH..
WHITE LINE PICKET......JUNCTION FALLS RD /WHITEROCK RD.
More to follow..

Well said tiarna,

2012-02-27T14:03:17.016Z

Well said tiarna,

Robert I quote, "Marian Price has not been i...

2012-02-27T13:24:43.904Z

Robert

I quote, "Marian Price has not been imprisoned on account of her political beliefs but rather on the basis of how these manifest themselves." ...in the mind of her opponents and their ability to abuse their power.

Marian Price has had the the benefit of unbiased decisions from the Court in her favour -the court accepts she may have a case to answer but that she need not be held captive until a trial is arranged.

I do not agree with MP or the hooded man who read from the sheet of paper she held for him. BUT I do care that she be treated fairly and properly,

Also, MP's case is exposing fundamental flaws in what Sinn Fein delivered to its members and supporters. For a Politician to be able to secure someone's detention in NI is an illustration that an Executive Order can override the authority of a court of law which determined that she should be released on bail. SF are part of the Executive and they cannot wash their hands of the matter by claiming it is the Secretary of State.

For those in SF sitting on the Justice Committee sound bites are no longer enough.

Tiarna

Marion Price is essentially being held hostage as ...

2012-02-26T23:25:12.411Z

Marion Price is essentially being held hostage as a threat to so called "dissidents".

Her crime is opposing the status quo. Every single member of PSF should hang their head in shame.

Robert, and how did those beliefs manifest themse...

2012-02-26T21:41:47.624Z

Robert,

and how did those beliefs manifest themselves? She is bailed on any charges that she faced. She is in jail for something other than she is charged with.

Holding a piece of paper is punishable by untold s...

2012-02-26T21:37:55.162Z

Holding a piece of paper is punishable by untold solitary confinement,,a harsh punishment by any standards dont you think Robert, wouldnt like to get caught stealing a rabbit a cara,

Anthony, 'Policing is another area where repu...

2012-02-26T19:47:30.581Z

Anthony,

'Policing is another area where republicanism lost out badly. And we see it today'.

I don't think it necessarily follows that Republicanism, having lost the war, has lost out on policing. Marian Price has not been imprisoned on account of her political beliefs but rather on the basis of how these manifest themselves.

Flags ,posters,badges,and flyers relating to Maria...

2012-02-26T16:44:24.362Z

Flags ,posters,badges,and flyers relating to Marians plight are due to arrive in Belfast this week,as far as I can tell there is due to be a white line picket at the junction of the Falls and Whiterock rd on Tue ,leaflets are to be distributed in Castle st on Fri ,hopefully this may be the start of more concerted high profile campaign to have Marian released.

AM Thank you for acknowleding that I sent an artic...

2012-02-26T15:52:34.255Z

AM
Thank you for acknowleding that I sent an article earlier. AM, I am actively calling on people to get out and protest about the prisoners, I am sick sore and tired of people saying that they can’t be annoyed, they are political prisoners, full stop! Get out there and protest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Marty, "now with the dark nights almost behi...

2012-02-26T13:50:09.068Z

Marty,

"now with the dark nights almost behind us maybe we can reinstate the camp on the old Andersonstown ruc barracks and white line pickets on this busy nationalist road, push for qsf to show some backbone on this issue by threatening to withdraw from Stormont..."

Aye, the sap is rising now and I get the feeling it's time to hit the streets.

This year, on this subject, my personal focus will be on Marion, as it was on Brendan last year.

Belfastgit, no idea what happened to your comment...

2012-02-26T13:48:53.279Z

Belfastgit,

no idea what happened to your comment. it did not come through.

You would imagine that all former prisoners would support the call for Marian's release. But there are many who are embarrassed by Marian because she flags up very clearly which side they are on now. And if they protest too much they are going to be asked how did such a situation arise when Marty McGuinness told everyone he was going to put manners on the police.

Policing is another area where republicanism lost out badly. And we see it today.

I (tried to) post a comment earlier, but it hasn’t...

2012-02-26T13:32:55.538Z

I (tried to) post a comment earlier, but it hasn’t appeared yet. Yes, AM is right, there hasn’t been an anti-biotic (which don’t kill virus’s by the way) or any drug invented that stops the Stick virus (unfortunately). My earlier post concerned ALL of us standing together in protest at the treatment of Republican prisoners, no matter if you belong to a political party, or like myself, none. Protest against the treatment of political prisoners and the internment of Marian Price, Martin Corey and Gerry McGeough (among others) and forget political allegiances until we’ve got some sort of “justice” for them.

Aye Anthony and Dipstick

2012-02-26T13:15:53.459Z

Aye Anthony and Dipstick

Martin, good piece. Thanks for putting it our way...

2012-02-26T12:41:05.322Z

Martin,

good piece. Thanks for putting it our way

Sam, some time ago I observed that the best book ...

2012-02-26T12:40:05.607Z

Sam,

some time ago I observed that the best book on the peace process was written long before the process ever started - Animal Farm. But there is nothing new under the sun. What the Sticks did SF will do. Once the Stick virus is in the system there is little that can be offered in the way of immunisation. They supported supergrass evidence and informing. It is an iron rule of republican politics – go Stick, do Stick.