Comments on The Pensive Quill: The (d)Evolution of Revolution

I think I first saw this link on the TPQ a while b...

2013-09-05T18:14:24.566+01:00

I think I first saw this link on the TPQ a while back, this seems to be the way to go.

Exposing how the people are being taken for a ride by those who claim to be working for the good of the people and backing it all up with substantive evidence.

http://sinnfeincommunitymafia.wordpress.com/

I grew up in a loyalist area and even I am still b...

2013-09-05T13:04:18.604+01:00

I grew up in a loyalist area and even I am still beyond confused by them. I personally do not believe that hardline thugs who spew venom will ever be changed, regardless of how much sense or evidence may be presented to them. Whilst walking my dog past the Short Strand / Albertbridge road last night, I looked over at the small crowd of flag protestors. Most were just standing talking and looking awkwardly around and of course, trying to stare down any residents of the Short Strand. A lone police wagon sat watching. Out of the small crowd, I wondered about how they are being used by the PUP and DUP. They are so easy to lead and from the vast majority I have spoken to, they are not the brightest bulbs around. 10 months into these protests and the no surrender ever crowd has faded away to watch Eastenders. I think social mediums like facebook is to an extent, keeping the protests and hatred at the front. It is it's life support. Sadly it gives voice to hatred from the like of jim dowson and that crazy Frazer guy. I have met Jim Dowson and Jamie Bryson last December and well, they live in fantasy world. Reality is that only a small fanatic group of non church going / actual practicing Protestants are in support of this extremism. I was raised to only call yourself a Protestant if you actually take part within that religion. Sadly it is nothing but a cheap convenient sectarian label for these people.
The UVF are now painting more gunmen on walls. The latest features a warning against oppression. As a child I remember a local band that was a very well known UDA band, marching through the area with a colour party in full UDA combats carrying UFF flags. The mass crowd tagging along with their blue bags of beer and teenage drunks singing along to UDA songs that ironically are set to some Irish rebel tunes. My Mother would quickly shut the windows and draw over the curtains to block it out. Those are people so far gone from the point of return with hatred. Ireland is changing fast and as we can see from the British government, they want to leave to extreme element behind.

Feel te love, 'Feel te guff' appears so m...

2013-09-04T22:57:28.894+01:00

Feel te love,

'Feel te guff' appears so much more appropriate.

Yes Frankie I agree with that. I would love nothin...

2013-09-04T21:13:35.651+01:00

Yes Frankie I agree with that. I would love nothing better than a revolution along the lines of the French type. A new world order with a lot less money orientated cunts. Frank I dont care what pot loyalists piss in or on but,my attitude is cultivated from their ability to piss on the community I come from, remember (St Mathews). Dont worry Frankie your point has nt been lost on me. Orange men are just what it says on the tin and there is no place in this country for the scum unless they are willing to accept me and every other human being on this piece of ground as nothing more or less than themselves. There is only one thing I hate more than loyalist scum and that is Sinn Fein scum. Pussys like you perpetuate the conflict here by your proclytype idealistic view of the world. The brits are scum and got were they did by murder ,torture, oppression in its many forms. All I want is them gone from here so that the people of this island can challenge the mentality that has beset the free state and brought it to its knees.

Frankie Not at all sure what you are getting at, ...

2013-09-04T21:02:14.735+01:00

Frankie

Not at all sure what you are getting at, other than possibly class division..?

I don't have a problem with well healed people, just with the likes of a senile old witch like Thatcher sitting in the Ritz while having no idea where she was as her friends were imposing a bedroom tax on dole-ites. That miffs me.

Larry, going on past 'stat's and today'...

2013-09-04T20:04:09.328+01:00

Larry, going on past 'stat's and today's 'figures'...loads more deaths, 10 billion GBP per yr and fcuk knows for what. You've said repeatly you hope to leave the cauldron soon. Do it....

What I like the TPQ for is simple. Gives me space to understand...or at least fill in a jig-saw.

I don't see the difference in someone in Clichy or Ardoyne...Woodstock Road, Bronx or where ever not having a pot to piss in. Personally I don't. All I know is no one has the money to buy a pot in the first place.

While our Lords and Masters are afraid to wipe their arse because they drank gold leaf laced Vodka at lunch this afternoon.

@ Mackers. I had to laugh at that. @ Snowtorch, I...

2013-09-04T19:56:59.499+01:00

@ Mackers. I had to laugh at that.

@ Snowtorch, I am no facist, in my opinion but you are entitled to yours. In my opinion you are wrong about loalists, "they dont belong here", but if they are to remain here they should adhere to the democratic wishes of the population. Not like the last time when it did nt go their way nearly 100 years ago. This time anyone who does nt like the outcome and opposes it, should be executed by the governing state as an example to to rest of those whom would oppose the will of the people. Alternatively they could fuck of to those not so far of lands were nobody wants them.

I just saw on BBC1 Scooterland that over 30% of ho...

2013-09-04T19:23:22.780+01:00

I just saw on BBC1 Scooterland that over 30% of homes in Glasgow are without a single household member in employment. It did cause me to laugh with a mixture of shock and disbelief. But it also made me wonder about the UK burden here with all the wee taigs on the dole who insist they are not British. I'm starting to think the Westminster has a huge masochistic streak and loves being used, by everybody!

feel the love, such a facist attitude 'there i...

2013-09-04T19:19:24.017+01:00

feel the love, such a facist attitude 'there is no place in Irish society', sounds like a protestant state for a protestant people only the colours are different. When loyalists apply that logic I would condemn it, when neo nazis would use that logic I'd condemn it, when a Repubican uses it I'd condemn it.

And Michael 'HoHoHo' Henry you gave me a chuckle, from someone who supports a party whose members lets say have many revenue streams, and are known to ignore employment legislation to be making comment about someone in another party. Ah well, you should get a tattoo, shinners in glass houses should't throw stones :o)

Sean, welcome to TPQ with a debut article. Hopefu...

2013-09-04T19:14:42.796+01:00

Sean,

welcome to TPQ with a debut article. Hopefully, there are many more.

Frankie you are talking balls. Dont take that pers...

2013-09-04T18:37:30.835+01:00

Frankie you are talking balls. Dont take that personal as it is just my opinion of what you advocate, or the proclamation advocates. The Loyalists are scum and in my opinion there is no place in Irish society for them. Just like there is no place for bent bankers or corrupt politicos. Dont ask me to sup from your,(lets wean them attitude to the true path). They are all cunts in my opinion and I have arrived at that stance from experience and Frank I am from Ardoyne> earlier post.

Frankie- " No one vote "- " Vote i...

2013-09-04T18:26:01.962+01:00

Frankie-

" No one vote "-
" Vote in fresh blood "-

Great campaign slogan you have-Lol-

Poor Rich Conall McDevitt has jumped from the Assembly with more pay packets than the Liverpool team-x number two in the stoops is still crying-just goes to show that money cant buy everything-just a Stoop or two-

Frankie It's not simply the Brits using the l...

2013-09-04T18:01:40.983+01:00

Frankie

It's not simply the Brits using the loyalists, you have that relationship misjudged in my view. Loyalism is 'loyal' only in so far as its vested interests are met by Westminster. They are the ones doing a greater percentage of the 'using'. When the time comes I expect them to become as ugly towards the UK as they are towards Ireland.

When will irish republicans reconcile themselve...

2013-09-04T17:05:36.211+01:00
When will irish republicans reconcile themselves to the absolute fact that unionists are the front line of Bruttish occupation of Ireland and not just a symptom of it.

Feel te love, Irish republicans figured that out long ago. What they (Irish republicans) have so far failed, is convincing PUL-ers that the Brits are simply using them. As for the proclamation, it's probably more relevant today than anytime in the last 50/60 yrs. All you have to do is look at the bollicks the the banks left the 26C's in. As for Tony Blair & call me Dave..They didn't do anyone any favours apart from the choosen few.

When will irish republicans reconcile themselves t...

2013-09-04T15:22:31.556+01:00
When will irish republicans reconcile themselves to the absolute fact that unionists are the front line of Bruttish occupation of Ireland and not just a symptom of it.

The proclamation was all well and good in an idyllic world but dont let it chain you to an ideal that is far from the reality.

the result being that next election at least tw...

2013-09-04T13:54:31.039+01:00
the result being that next election at least two of my colleagues will be abstaining.

Thats a great idea. Next elections (European, council or other). No one vote. Everyone who stands will lose their deposits and it will be an eye opener to everyone. Let's not forget people, Belgium went over 500 days without an elected gov.

Or instead of voting in the same political dinosaurs..Vote in fresh blood.

Interesting comparative of Stormont and Westminste...

2013-09-04T11:53:28.355+01:00
Interesting comparative of Stormont and Westminster in regard to Ireland. Considering that the piss-process is nothing more than a huge never ending gravy train for a coalition of the willingly corrupt and spineless, it is little wonder there is no official opposition in the place.

Maybe it is a good angle for people and alternative political groups to research the antics of the all for one and one for all scoundrels on the hill. It may also slowly but surely shake the media from it's position of facilitating at all costs the crap that passes for progress here. Be interesting to see just what they've been up to. TOGETHER AT THE TROUGH.

Yep, a research project outside Stormont by independent groups may be the perfect answer seeing as they are all in cahoots and a law to themselves. An opposition based outside the place and independent of the rogues in it.